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History of the Hoop Dee Doo Musical Review

May 26, 2010
by Chuck Mirarchi
DIS Contributing Columnist

Hoop Dee Doo Review

The various shows and attractions at the Walt Disney World Resort have always been popular. Many guests plan their days not only around parade and show schedules, but also meals and dinner shows.

With over 35,000 performances and more than 10 million guests who have seen the show so far, the Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue is one of the most popular dinner shows at the Walt Disney World Resort.  Located in Pioneer Hall at the Fort Wilderness Campgrounds, the Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue is performed three times a night, seven days a week at 5:00, 7:15, and 9:00 pm.  As with many other advanced dining reservations (ADR), guests call months in advance for one of the coveted seats and there is almost always a cancellation line at each show.

From those who are loyal followers of the show to those who haven’t seen it...but will, we are going to explore the history and creation of this loveable goofball of a wilderness vaudeville dinner show.

Ron Miziker, who was the creator of many classic pieces of entertainment for the Walt Disney World Resort and was involved in every new show at the Resort, was one the creators and writers of the Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue. 

The show, which is considered one of the longest, continuously running musicals in American theatre history (if not the longest), holds a special place for everyone who has seen the show.  When you first try to describe the show to someone they will typically look at you skeptical, but interested.  It’s not until someone experiences the show for the first time do they understand the undying love and affinity for the show.6

For all its longevity, the evolution of the Hoop Dee Doo Revue has just as many do si do's as a square dance. 

PIONEER HALL

After the park had opened, there was a company-wide directive to find ways to increase revenue streams throughout all the divisions.  When Pioneer Hall was going into its final design phase there was a heated discussion about some of the design suggestions for the Hall.  Originally the Imagineering department wanted Pioneer Hall to be constructed to complement the cafeteria.  After getting their food from the cafeteria, the Hall was meant to serve as a "meeting" or "town hall" where guests would go to play various games, to hear lectures, and watch nature films while eating.  Card Walker, as well as the other park executives, was pushing to maximize the park's facilities to bring in additional revenue.2

Recreating a sturdy lodge in the Northwest Territory, Pioneer Hall, which opened in April 1974, was assembled with 1,283 hand-fitted logs.  Since Florida pine trees were not tall enough, nor was their bark suitable, a six-month search went on to find the right trees.  The search ended in Montana where Western White Pines had the exact specifications needed.  They were packed up and shipped by rail across the U.S. to the Resort.4

When Pioneer Hall opened it housed Crockett’s Tavern, a full-service lounge and dinner restaurant featuring wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling Davy Crockett memorabilia. 

Since Pioneer Hall, built after the park had officially opened, was expensive to build, it needed to generate as much revenue as possible.  Card reviewed the plan proposed by the Imagineering department and decided that no one would pay to see nature films and hear lectures.  He then asked Bob Jani, Vice President of Entertainment and his team to come up with a pioneer show for the Hall.  At the time, Bob had three division directors reporting to him: one in charge of show operations at Disneyland, one in charge of show operations at Walt Disney World, and one in charge of show development responsible for creating, developing, and producing projects at all the Disney Park, as well as special large events and shows Disney was called on to do... that person was Ron.  Larry Billman, the show director, reported to Ron along with 35 other individuals.  Typically once one of Ron's team's shows opened, it then became the responsibility of that particular park's operating director to manage the show. 

With this new directive, the Entertainment Division looked at the final designs for Pioneer Hall and realized that what was being proposed would not be conducive for a live stage show.  Their two biggest objections were the proposed size of the balcony and the size and placement of pillars.  They won one battle and lost the other one. 

The Entertainment Division objected to the placement and size of the pillars inside because they said that they were too wide and would ruin the sight lines for the guests.  The pillars, originally constructed from 70 tons of rare ebony stone from North Carolina4, remained as they were, but over the years the width of the pillars were reduced.  Imagineering had also wanted to install a wide balcony to accommodate multiple rows of tables.  The Entertainment Division objected to this and wanted a single row of tables.  Their reasoning was that those not in the first row would be so far back they would see little to none of the show.  The Entertainment Division won.

According to D23, in 1973, shortly before the Hoop Dee Doo was created, the Star Spangled Washboard Band, a New York-based group of country-western musicians, began performing at Pioneer Hall.  During the time the Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue was being planned, written, and readied for Pioneer Hall.

This musical group, along with others was probably booked by Sonny Anderson. Sonny, who somewhat independent of Jani's three producers, was responsible for booking all the musicians, bands, headliners, etc for the parks.  When each team needed a specific act for a regular or holiday show, Sonny would work with that division to find that act.  For example, when Ron needed a circus-style dog act for a Christmas parade, Sonny found and hired the act.  Once hired, Ron's team was responsible for integrating them into the parade. 

CASTING THE SHOW

Since the show wasn't planned as a permanent show, but something to fill the space and bring in some additional revenue, Walt Disney World started auditioning college students from the summer intern program - the Disney/CalArts Work Experience.  The Disney/CalArts Work Experinece was an 11-week work experience program in entertainment that involved both Disneyland and Walt Disney World.  The intern program was beneficial to both the students and the company.  The students would gain valuable show experience, received classroom instruction, and get eight units of college credit... (And possibly future employment) and the company was able to have an inexpensive source of labor for busy periods.  Traditionally there were 97 participating students each year; coming from over 50 universities. 

During this time auditions were for the three female and three male character performers. Those roles were: Six Bits Slocum and Dolly Drew (comic relief), Jim Handy and Flora Long (the singers), and Johnny Ringo and Claire de Lune (the dancers).

Three of the six original cast included Marilyn Magness, Tony Christopher, and Gary Goddard. Marilyn has held a number of jobs in the entertainment industry including working on projects for Ron's company, Miziker Productions. Today, Marilyn is back at the Disney Company as Creative Director of Parks and Resorts Entertainment. Both Tony Christopher and Gary Goddard went on to successful entertainment careers together and individually at Disney and on their own.

When the summer was over and the college students headed back to school the Hoop Dee Doo, which proved to be an incredibly popular show, continued on.  This time auditions were held and on September 5, 1974, Disney performers continue in the six roles.

THE SHOW

According to Ron, the script for the Hoop Dee Doo was a collaborative effort. The writers, as with many Disney shows and productions, tried to incorporate something that was a nod to the Disney legacy. In the Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue it was Davy Crockett. Davy was woven in by playing off of the coonskin cap and killing the bear. A large section of the show is the Legend of Davy Crockett - complete with bear puns and jokes.

When asked how much of the original script has changed over the years, Ron said that the script is exactly the same from 1974 except for one thing. When the show first started its run - in the show's finale the troupe would ask the audience to stand up on their chairs with their red and white checkered napkins in their hands and wave them high above their heads. Well, due to safety issues and liabilities that part was discontinued. Other than that – everything else is virtually the same. The cast generally follows the script for each performance. However, some of the cast members who typically have been performing the show for quite some time will ad lib from time to time.

THE MUSIC

The principle songwriter was Tom Adair. Tom’s first work with Disney was in the fall of 1954. In 1956 his first big project was to write words for George Bruns' score for Sleeping Beauty. When the Mickey Mouse Club started production, he wrote a few songs for the first season, collaborating mostly with Jimmie Dodd.

Over the years Tom picked up enough music theory from his many associates to try handling some composing. His work can be heard on The Tennessee Ernie Ford Show, then Hazel and The Ann Sothern Show. While working on the latter he met writer James B. Allardice, with whom he formed his newest partnership. Together they wrote scripts for some of the most popular television sitcoms including My Three Sons, I Dream of Jeanie, Gomer Pyle, The Munsters, Maude, and, F Troop. He also wrote Annette Funicello's first hit record, "How Will I Know My Love?"1

Ron Miziker said, “Tom was brilliant.  You can tell him the idea, theme, or play some music and he would have the lyrics for the song in no time.  He was the quickest songwriter I ever knew." 

Most of the songs in the show are parodies of actual songs previously recorded by top artists. One of those songs is the opening song of the show – “Hoop Dee Doo.” The song, written by Milton De Lugg and Frank Loesser, was first recorded by Perry Como in March of 1950 on RCA Victor Records. (Como initially didn’t want to record the song. He is rumored to have said, “I hate that song. It makes me sick.” It stayed in the Top 10 for almost 5 months.) Years later, when Ron was producing Perry's popular television network Christmas specials he asked Perry about the song and if he had ever seen the Hoop Dee Doo show. Perry said to Ron, "Why would you ever select that song?" Then Perry asked... in his typical style... if Ron could get him comp tickets to the show!

Most of the Hoop Dee Doo song's original music score was kept, but the words were changed to suit the show. And it is typically the song that you will hear most of the guests humming or singing on the way out of Pioneer Hall.

Another popular song in the show is the “All-State Song.” According to D23, two years earlier, a tune called the "All-State Song," was written for an unproduced Magic Kingdom live experience in Frontierland. The song was resurrected for the Hoop Dee Doo show.

The “All-State Song,” which was a take-off of the American Folk song, “She’ll Be Coming Around The Mountain,” written in the 1800’s1, was written with a verse for every state in the U.S. as well as verses for some of the more visited foreign countries including Canada. Each performer was given a set amount of states / countries and they memorized those verses. The way it worked was when all the performers moved into the audience and talked with the guests – they would indentify a guest and mention their state to the crowd. If the state were not part of their repertoire then the performer whose state it was would sing the verse. Eventually those performers who had performed the show multiple times started to memorize the other performers’ states and perform those parts as well.

THE FOOD

A 1974 brochure states, “The ‘Pioneer Hall Show’ features frontier entertainment nightly in two exciting dinner shows. Adult, $11, Junior (12-17), $8.25, Child (3-11), $5.50.” Today the price structure is not only based on adults and children, but also seating sections or categories. Prices range from $25.99 and up for children and $50.99 and up for adults.

Today the Hoop Dee Doo runs three shows a day every day. In all these years the menu hasn’t changed much. The salad course, along with the cornbread, is pre-set on the table. When the players come bursting through they get the show started and continue until the main courses are ready to be served. At that time the servers come through the dining room – literally slamming small metal kettles of fried chicken, smoked barbecued pork ribs, mashed potatoes, and country-style baked beans not on your table but right down on your plates. For dessert, originally it was apple pie, but now the Pioneer Hall Players not only introduce the dessert – strawberry shortcake – but the servers come parading off the stage with the dessert to the tables.

The Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue is one of those shows that may not be on the top of first-time visitors lists, but once you go and experience not only the majestic Pioneer Hall, chow down on all-you-care-to-eat vittles, and are thoroughly entertained by the Pioneer Hall Players, but understanding what went into creating this toe-tapping revue will put it at the top of your list on future visits.

Footnotes:

1. Wikipedia
2. Ron Miziker interview / www.miziker.com
3. www.waltdisneyworld.com
4. Since The World Began – Walt Disney World The First 25 Years
5. Walt Disney World – The First Decade
6. www.d23.com


28 Comments
Christy
It must be noted that the food at this show leaves much to be desired. I took my husband on his first trip to WDW and we had to stop on the way home for a snack. It's better than cafeteria food, but the worst sit-down meal I've ever had at WDW.

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Juanita Shular
My daughter(11yrs old) and I have seen the Hoop Dee Doo Revue dinner show every year for the last 3 years. We are going to WDW again this September but taking my boyfriend and his daughter(9yrs old) along. For sure we will go to see the show again!!! We love it and I know that my boyfriend and his daughter will love it too!!!!

Lesa
We love the HDDR! Everyone from toddlers to teens loves the show and food. It is just a great all around Disney show.

Lenny
I've seen the HDR probably a dozen times with my 2 daughters. It's the 1 show that is a must see while at Disney. Great for a family or just a couple. Good food, good drink and one heck of a good time. You won't want to miss it.

Joy
My husband and I just returned from WDW and it was his first time, we're both 28 and were the youngest, and only single couple (without kids) to go to the HDD Revue and it was just as amazing as when I saw it with my family when I was 6. The food is wonderful and the show is hilarious. There were many, many kids there and just the synergy between the players and audience was amazing and memorable. You will not be disappointed- it was the best time we had during our week's stay. It's fun for kids of all ages, maybe not so much tweens who are in their moody-phase (you can't please them!).

Jen
My kids are 4, 7, and 12. we have a reservation for HDD. Not sure if we want to keep it! I feel like there is sooo much to do. I'm torn can't decide if it will be worth the time it requires.

Cindy
We just love the HDR; it has given us so many memories. The first time we saw it was in 1983, for our 25th wedding anniv. I wanted to surprise my husbsnd. I called for reserv as soon as was possible and got the small table right in front of the stage for 2. Well, I am a small fiesty red headand Six Bits started with me right away; it didn't take Dolly long to follow with my husband. We had a wonderful, memorable time. The last time there was about 3 years ago. Our son, wife, and grandson met us at Disney. Well our son was chosen to go up on stage to be the Indian - now you must realize he is 6'4", 260 lbs, bald, and an x-marine - need I say more. I don't think I ever laughed so hard. We have been there many times in between and we will go back!

Donna Endriukaitis
We did HDD in Nov '08, we arrived on a Sunday afternoon and had reservations for the 715p show. What a way to start our vacation! We were there celebrating my daughters 5th birthday, and her first trip to WDW. We are coming back this Nov to celebrate her 7th bday and she's already told us she wants to do the HDD again! Out of all the things for her to choose from....this is what she mentioned first. A good, wholesome show for the entire family!

richyams
Love this show - and cool to read about the history! Each and every time we'd go to WDW, the first item on the agenda was Hoop-De-Doo! It was always just a great way to get us in the Disney spirit!!! Lisa

Rick Simard
I remember my first time going to this back in 1984. I have learned since to save room for the Strawberry Shortcake. 3 years ago I got to be the angel at the end, and was so thrilled that after attending this show some 24 times, I finally got selected. Back a about 4 years ago I took our school softball team to Disney for spring training, and took the girls to the show. They loved it. It's one of those things that if we don't go on our visit (happened only once) it just doesn't feel like we took our vacation!

Donald B.
Me my Wife and sone with their wife and grand children have seen this show almost every time We have been to WDW and we enjoyied it every time and a friend of our that went with us was pul up on stage and had a great time. It is something everyone should see very entertaining.

jessica eileen kardasz
The food was HORRIBLE! aLL OF MY KIDS HATED IT!

debbie snow
I went as a young girl many many years ago. now with a family of my own we have visited disney every year since 2005 and my husband (never had been) would always say oh that wont be fun blah, blah, blah, and finally I said to him last year lets try it.. our children ages 21,11, and 6 along with my mom and grandmother and my oldests GF we went and what a time we had... laugh soo hard.. well now my husband is like Oh this is a must do every year... So I am glad I pushed to go last year.. just as much fun as I remember as a child...

Mary
I am taking 22 people there in December 2010, during our wedding events week. This is a MUST DO!!!

Rosalie
My family and i went uit was amazing i loved it great for a family trip

Wendy
We also love the HHD. It is a must do everytime we go to WDW. Thank you for a great review and history of the HDD. Everyone should try the HDD at least one time in their lifetime.

Jim
Fantastic article!!! I have been going to the Hoop Dee Doo since the early 80's. I can still remember sneaking a sip of Sangria from my Mom's mug. It's a great show for the whole family. Loved all of the history in the article. Not seeing the show when we make a trip to WDW is almost "un-bearable"!

Kristian
Taking 25 people there in July for our rehearsal dinner, now you've got me really excited! Great article

Kris
Great article! I am 29 yrs old and have been going to the Hoop De Doo with my family since I was a little kid. I absolutely love it! I have seen it 20 or more times, the last time being February of this year. It brought back so many great memories and is one of the reasons I continue to go to WDW multiple times a year.

Suzanne Lefever
LOVE THE HDD! Great slap stick type of hummor that makes all ages laugh! And the "all you can eat" meal is wonderful with 3 hungry guys! Best way to get there is by boat. Then on the way back to the TCC you can watch the water parade! Fun, fun night Disney Style!

Will
Nice, I loved the HDD when we went, nice work Chuck!

Melissa L.
I have been goin to Hoop-Dee-Doo since I was 5yrs old and now I'm 35yrs old and married with 2 girls, and this is how we start Our disney vacation every single time. This Nov 2010 we are going again and bring 6 of our friends that have never been to the show before!! I'm sure they will have a MAGICAL TIME!! Melissa

Cory
Is there 2 different casts for HDD? On youtube it's mostly the chubby Sixbits on there but when we went last year it was a slimmer guy who was HALARIOUS!

Steve
In the times when we've driven to WDW, we were NEVER able to find Pioneer Hall! There are lots of roads, causeways (etc) for motorhomes, campers, etc ... but very little signage ... especially if you are not sure where you are headed.

michelle willey
We really enjoy hoop dee doo it's a great show alot of fun the food is good.Every time we go to disneyworld we try and go see hoop dee doo. iTs the best!

Brian Gould
Fantastic Article loved it. This show is my favorite in all of WDW no lie I have had to of seen it about 25 to 30 times. Just as funny as the 1st time I saw it. The salad is out of this world ok the dressing is. The rest of the food is great also.. Once again fantastic article. Brian

Corey Martin
Great piece Chuck! Extremely informative!

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